Damn it’s early! Really, a little jet lag right now – clock says 5 AM, my body clock says it’s high noon and time for lunch. Went to bed at 9:30 PM (or 4:30 AM). You get the idea. I fell asleep last night reading the latest issue of Christianity Today. The cover story is interesting and hits a matter that I’ve been a big fan of for years – “The Case for Early Marriage: Settling down sooner than later has never made more sense. Here’s why.” You can find that online if you are interested. (Oops. I just typed “if you are interesting” instead of “interested”. Funny.) However, the story most in my head from this latest issue has to do with cussing pastors.
For those who are not aware, for a few months pastors have been talking about the subject of cussing in the pulpit. As I’ll detail below, Pastor Mark Driscoll, a popular Seattle mega-church pastor, has a famously foul mouth. In response to Driscoll and his large following of Church of Potty Mouth wannabees, Pastor Ed Young threw this clip up on youtube…
Recently I asked another pastor if he’d seen Ed’s clip on the Cussing Pastor and he said yes and I figured we’d talk for a few moments about how right on it was – instead, I got a whole deal on how it’s okay to use the words of the culture to communicate the gospel. A bit untypically of me, I just listened and nodded – he probably thinks I was in agreement with him and my nods may have even encouraged him to say more.
I don’t know why I didn’t say more, I guess I was shocked. I just can’t believe we’ve reached the point where we think we have to swear to reach people. Jesus certainly didn’t need to stoop to swearing to reach people. Maybe we ought to emulate him and not the longshoreman out on the dock or the attention-addicted sarcasts on the comedy channel. And what about this verse in James 3:10… Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. Case closed, right? Hello??
In the Christianity Today issue I was reading last night is a report on how Pastor Mark Driscoll divided the South Baptist Convention in two at their annual meeting. Mark isn’t a Southern Baptist, but they invited him to speak because, according to the math, the SBC will lose half it’s present members by 2050. Some in leadership see the decline trend and want the SBC pastors to move beyond choirs, robes, Sunday School, Sunday night services, VBS and other things like suit-wearing, tea-totaling and gospel quartets. They notice the world has changed and the SBC hasn’t kept up in a relevant way.
So, at their annual meeting, the Southern Baptists invited Mark Driscoll to address the constituency. (Many of their younger ministers and church planters follow him closely despite the fact that Mark has a history of using risqué language, drinking alcohol and talking about sex.) After he spoke there were five motions made including one that SBC pastors cannot have any contact with Mark Driscoll or his Acts 29 Church Planting Network. Another motion was made to ban any future speaker at an SBC meeting who drinks and swears.
In January the NY Times reported that even GodTube.com can’t carry Driscoll’s sermon video clips… “with titles like “Biblical Oral Sex” and “Pleasuring Your Spouse,” his clips do not stand a chance against the site’s content filters.” The NY Times says; “he has the coolest style and foulest mouth of any preacher you’ve ever seen” and that his “Mars Hill Church is the furthest thing from a Puritan meetinghouse.” Driscoll thinks it’s funny and says he even kicks himself when he realizes at the end of a sermon that he didn’t swear and that people come to his church because they want to hear him swear. He remarks that some have left disappointed wondering if he got saved since last Sunday.
In May, my father’s former boss, Dick Bott of the Bott Radio Network (40 million listeners) pulled the plug of a broadcast in mid-air because Pastor Mark Driscoll was using explicit language to talk about the Song of Solomon. Bott followed up with a notice to his stations that Driscoll was not allowed on his stations anymore.
I don’t swear in the pulpit or in public (though, honestly, I do swear in my head on occasion). If this is confession time, I’ll admit I have to fight swearing in private – I’ve learned it’s, for me, the first first symptom that surfaces revealing I’ve been neglecting to be with Jesus. The Bible says, “out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.” My lame excuse is that I grew up around it. My drill sergeant dad spoke fluent profanity. He could call into question your gender identity, your IQ, your mother’s fidelity, your purpose on planet earth, your value as a person and your potential-in-life all in a rapid-fire ten second seamless string of obscenities. Growing up around that, even today, I’m sorry to say I often don’t even notice swearing in a movie. (Parents have asked me if a movie is okay, I say “it was great” and they come back later mad because I didn’t warn them about the profanity. Me saying, “oops, I didn’t notice” doesn’t cut it, though it’s true.
A cussing pastor is not the same as the guy, brand new to the faith, who rattles his small group because he prays out loud… “God, I’ve really -eff’d up- my life…”. Leaders are those who’ve gone out ahead of the rest and who influence others to come to where they are. In my Momentum book I list carnality, worldliness and character flaws in the leader all in the momentum stopper category. Before you point out the obvious that none of this seems to have cost Driscoll anything in the ministry momentum area (his church has 7,500 attending), just know that drawing a crowd doesn’t equal Kingdom Momentum. As I say in the book, “without holiness, no one will see God rise in their midst in any lasting way.” Craig Groeshel at Life Church says he could draw an unprecedented crowd for next weekend just by advertising free beer but that is not the growth God is looking for, nor is it what we are called to give away.
Perhaps one of the reasons pastors stoop to swearing is because most HATE IT when they are around the unchurched and the unchurched guy suddenly cleans up his speech – “oh, sorry pastor.” So they are the first to swear to sort of break the ice hoping the guy will be taken aback and view him as cool and different than most holy men. (In other words, they cease to be holy so as to not be numbered among the holy men. Holy means set apart, or pure, as in not diluted or tainted by mixture with something foreign.) God help us. Often I don’t mention to the person cutting my hair that I’m a pastor because a noticeable wave of guilt or embarrassment washes over those who are sitting in the seats on each side of me because they suddenly realize they just expounded on the raunchy stuff they did last weekend.
I write in my Sermon on the Mount book that being salt and light means your presence ought to change the environment around you. The trick however is to emulate God in such a way that you emanate God and not some air of self-righteous piety. The key verse in the entire Sermon on the Mount is in Matthew 6:8. Jesus says “do not be like them.” That means we ought not even talk like those who don’t know God.
Here’s a few verses related to this— if you struggle with swearing, write these on a card, memorize them and let the Holy Spirit do his work on your tongue. Enlist others to hold you accountable. (My cousin’s husband recently told me he has a deal worked out with his son… every time he curses, his son gets ten more Wii minutes a day. Whatever works!)
Ephesians 5:4 Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.
Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.
Colossians 3:8 But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.
For a couple weeks I’ve been doing the background work for a series in James I’m starting next month. I’ve thought to do a mini-series in the middle on chapter 3 – taming the tongue – because I’m convinced life or death is in the power of the tongue. Comments, please!!
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August 3, 2009 at 7:38 am
Carl Thomas
Overall I agree with your post. Though through most of it I wondered why you started a post about not cursing with a curse word.
I wrote a similar post but much shorter
http://www.carlthomas.net/a-book-i-would-love-to-write-to-the-new-breed-of-church-leaders
August 4, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Dave
Is damn really a curse word? Seems to me to be the modern version of woe, which is a word that Jesus used frequently.
August 3, 2009 at 7:45 am
Steve Hickey
Carl – I love your post. Thanks for your comment. My wife had the same comment. I don’t know, I guess for the same reason Ed Young did.
August 3, 2009 at 8:02 am
Zach Nielsen
I have listened to hundreds of Mark D. sermons. I think he gets a bad rap. I have never heard him drop any four letter words. He may have in the past, but I think his reputation is greatly exaggerated.
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August 3, 2009 at 8:05 am
Travis
I agree that the tongue is a very dangerous weapon. I heard horrible things being said by my grandfather to my mother, on his death-bed. I was sixteen at the time and that moment changed our lives. I could feel my mom’s heart being crushed. He had not only reopened many wounds from their past relationship, but he created many more.
In the matter of a few seconds he had crushed two spirits. I spiraled into depression and severed my relationships with my living grandparents. I started using drugs and alcohol, and I built a wall around me not allowing me to be in any semblance of a meaningful relationship with anyone. My mother walked a similar path, but her vice was gambling, which had further reaching devastating consequences for our family.
I felt that I had been tricked my whole life and I believed that everything I understood to be true about love and relationships was a sham. It took many years, and the love of Jesus to be healed. Unfortunately we left a wake of devastation that affected many more lives than just ours.
To get back on topic of your post, one of the bad side effects that I could foresee from pastors using profanity on and or off the pulpit is that it could very easily lead someone, (maybe a Christian in his church), to believe they have license to communicate the gospel with others in the same manner.
This could be very repulsive to the people that they would be called to bear witness to, thus keeping them away from the Lord. I would liken it to salt that has lost its taste. Jesus says, in Mathew 5:13, that there is no place for that kind of tasteless salt in his church.
August 3, 2009 at 10:36 am
Bret
This is a perfect example of “secular culture” shaping the church when the church should be shaping the culture. But the church, in it’s strivings to reach people, attempts to be “relevant” and in doing so compromises it’s values.
I believe it’s entirely possible actually that the reflection of society is a reflection of the church. So is it possible the church has shaped society and this is what we have?
As a Christian I remember working with people for about a year who weren’t christians. I remember I was having a bad day one day and I said “dam* it!” One of the guys I worked with looked at me and said what? And he shook his head no, as if to say don’t compromise. I’ll never forget that. This guy was not a christian and in the world, but he was watching, I let him down.
As Christians we are not perfect but the world is watching. “Church” people are not to be the “same as the world.”
Sadly, I have heard this type of language from people in my church. Not from the pulpit but in passing.
August 3, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Joe
There is an old saying that goes something like this, “Controversy Creates Profits.” What better way to create controvery than to “cuss” or deliver very explicit sermons about sex or even have links on your church’s web site to virtual “sex toy” stores. All of these push buttons with Christians. There should be no doubt, “mission accomplished” – controversy was created.
As long as controvery is maintained, people will buy books, pay to listen to teachings over the web and attend church meetings which they will support with their tithes and offerings.
It’s simply a business model adapted to the ministry.
August 5, 2009 at 9:53 am
Dave
Joe,
What does any of that have to do with Mark Driscoll and Mars Hill Church? Including Driscoll and MHC in such a broad brush indictment is neither fair nor accurate.
August 5, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Joe
What does any of that have to do with Mark Driscoll and Mars Hill Church?
Controversy
1) MD delivers very explicit sermons about sex.
2) The MHC website has / had a link to a “sex toy” store.
3) MD brews his own beer.
4) MD “cusses” or did “cuss.”
Business Model
1) The MHC has experienced explosive growth, in large part due to the publicity surrounding the “controversy” above.
2) The MHC benefits by accepting offerings from the attendees.
1) The MHC benefits because its website has /had a link which requires payment to continue reading about a certain topic.
6) The MHC church does not publish any financial statements. Accurate or not accurate?
August 4, 2009 at 9:29 am
Marilyn and Jerry
Jerry always said that people swear because they don’t have an expanded vocabulary. When he first became a Christian, he would stop a story in the middle, because he didn’t know how to finish it without swearing. I do sometimes say something I wouldn’t say “in church”, but that is never when I’m letting God speak through me. If I pray first, I would have a better way to express myself. The cussing that bothers us most is using God’s name in vain. That has since expanded to texting. O M and G, really now, what is being said?
August 5, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Dave
I hear you, M & J. Sometimes, though, it takes a while to purge cursing from a Christian’s vocabulary and thoughts. Sometimes, though, I think it serves God’s purpose to leave it in awhile, because the Holy Spirit can use it for His purposes–like purging complacency from the Body of Christ. Remember that God directed Isaiah to walk naked around Egypt for three years (Is. 20). I’m not justifying his behavior, but we should be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
We no longer live in a Christian culture. The SBC recognizes this fact with their invitation to Pastor Mark to speak at their conference. They understood him to be effective in reaching into today’s culture with an unadulterated Gospel and giving answers to today’s questions. So, if they didn’t know who they were inviting, they should have. Yes, he has a temper, and yes it shows–sometimes considerably when confronted by Christians who aren’t advancing the Kingdom. Driscoll later repented for his coarse language, admitting he was an imperfect vessel. Hopefully, the SBC heard his rebuke; but the gnashing of teeth makes me think not.
Personally, I like Pastor Mark’s sand-blasting approach to exhorting a Biblical Christianity. It has more of an effect on me than other approaches and styles.
August 4, 2009 at 10:11 am
Tree Hugger
I have had similar experiences as Brett…you only need to say or do one inappropriate thing and it seems to take away some of your credibility. On the other hand it’s important not to seem “better” than your non-Christian friends. One of the more frequent comments that I hear about Christians from my non-Christian friends is that we think we’re better than them and that sometimes comes across in a pretentious manner. Not that we need to throw a cuss word out there every now and then, but it’s important to be genuine and non judgemental. I served two years aboard the USS Long Beach so I can relate to “swearing like a sailor’. It becomes second nature. It seems like over the years when I’m with my non-Christian friends that they seem to have cleaned up their language whenever they are around me and I don’t think it’s because they don’t want to offend me, but they just seem to think that it is more appropriate behavior. Remember..we are the salt of the earth!
August 4, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Kenny
You sure have a way with words! “My drill sergeant dad spoke fluent profanity. He could call into question your gender identity, your IQ, your mother’s fidelity, your purpose on planet earth, your value as a person and your potential-in-life all in a rapid-fire ten second seamless string of obscenities.” I have been the recipent of outbursts that seem to last for decades. A profishant cusser can swear for minutes without repeating themselves.
I, too, know that when words slip it is time for some self examination.
Newsweek just had an artical on swearings beneifits. Personally I find that cussing (the lack of selfcontrol) only creates more capicity for cussing.
Oh! no! no spell check? I spell like they sound–sometimes.
I spent the weekend with Perry and Jaque Babb in State College, PA I was there with Capt. Bob. A lot to report. Camping this week with the Wahl families. Limited I-net
August 4, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Tree Hugger
I would like to hear feedback in regards to social drinking Christians. Does it affect their credibility?
August 4, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Dave
Not sure my take on this post is going to be popular, and apologies in advance for the length of this post. I’d take one Mark Driscoll over most of the pastors I’ve listened to in my 43 years (22 yrs as a Christian). A lot of those reports are exaggerations, making mountains out of molehills and accusing sin where there is no sin. The media play up his roughness because they now it will stir up contention in the Church. And it does. But I couldn’t care less if some radio station pulled the plug on a Driscoll sermon, because I see Driscoll effectively planting churches and communicating the Gospel in one of the most godless cities in the U.S. Sorry, Pastor Steve, but I think your post does more to perpetuate the distortion than correct it. I don’t think you intended it that way, but that is the effect it had on me. Personally, I think you and Mark Driscoll are a lot alike in things that matter–like confronting both the Church and the culture with the Word of God, and taking heat from both sides. Very few pastors do that.
Every man in America–especially Christian men–should listen to Driscoll’s 3/22/09 sermon on 1 Peter 3:7 titled Marriage and Men (http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/trial/marriage-and-men). It’ll put hair on your chest, guys, and will put you on the fast road to being a better husband, father, and servant of Christ. If you let it, it’ll carve Christ-likeness in you quicker than you could ever imagine. Surgery is never without pain, so why pretend that it can be otherwise? Welcome the scapel, gentlemen! Toward the end of the sermon, he yells at us guys, using the h-e-double toothpicks word. So what? Do we think that the Apostle Paul wasn’t rough on Christians, making them squirm and grumble? Rightly so! They thought his words were rough, too! Didn’t Christians stir up contention around Paul and the other apostles (not to mention the OT prophets), because they used words of the day that would cut through pretentions? Ask my wife how I’ve changed in the last couple months since I heard that one message! For someone who thinks “butt” is a dirty word, my sweet wife certainly approves of Pastor Mark’s effect on me.
I listen to Driscoll’s sermons all the time, downloading his messages whenever I can. I made CDs of his entire Song of Solomon series (The Peasant Princess series) and listened to all ten messages on a recent road trip. I have absolutely no problem with the way he presented the book; in fact, I appreciated it, especially when 99% of pastors won’t even touch it! In our sex-crazed culture, where are the messages on Biblical sex and marital intimacy? Hint – there’s a bunch at Mars Hill Church (www.marshillchurch.org).
Guys, listen to Driscoll’s 10/28/01 Proverbs sermon titled Men and Masculinity (http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/proverbs/men-and-masculinity), then listen to it again with your sons. Driscoll is one of the few preachers in my life who can cut deep into my worldliness and hypocrisy and bring me to confession and repentence.
What about pornography? Very few pastors regularly confront porn in the Church like Pastor Mark. Guys, when’s the last time you heard a sermon on lust? If it is true that men have lustful thoughts dozens of times each day, perhaps we should have teaching that helps us combat the evil that tries to snare us? Men, if you love your wife and also your Christian brothers, you should read Mark’s booklet Porn Again Christian (http://relit.org/porn_again_christian/). Pornography and masturbation are a disease in the church, paralyzing men–including pastors.
Marcion is alive and well in the Church today, gnashing his teeth at pastors like Mark Driscoll, who have more in common with Jesus and the Apostles than they ever will. Growing up I remember a Nazarene church whose elders went out of their way to make our family feel unwelcome, simply because my dad smoked a pipe. Jesus had strong words for detractors like that: he called them white-washed tombs.
The Devil is alive and well in the Church, too, walking through doors in our minds that we leave wide open. If asked to name one thing about Mark Driscoll that I love, it is the fact that he’s not afraid or unwilling to wade into the dark closets and sewers of our lives, point out the dangers, grab hold of us, and help us pull free to safety. I thank God for him.
August 5, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Pat
Thanks, Steve, for a great word. I’ve not read one place where God the Father or Jesus, His son, felt the need to fit in, have people like them or be culturally relevant. They always reflected a life of holiness, a life above reproach. Would we, His followers be required to live anything less?
August 6, 2009 at 9:38 am
Kaye
Yes, damn is a swear word.
Sequoya, the great Cherokee leader, once asked a young man why he would want to damn the rock on which he stubbed his toe to hell. Damn means that you wish whatever receives that word would end up in hell. If rocks would cry out to Jesus if men were silent why would we damn one of them? All creation groans for his return and will be made new at his return. These are inanimate objects, how much more value is there on people?
Ephesians 5 tells us: But immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints; and there must be no filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks.
The definition of “coarse” is vulgar; obscene; crude; unrefined.
And the definition of “vulgar” is obscene; crude:
Men who need to talk about their genitalia, hair on their chests, etc, etc in order to demonstrate their manlyness simply show their “unrefined hearts”. Romans tells us to be transformed by the renewing of our minds which is of course contrasts with the definition of “coarse” which includes the word “unrefined”. Real men allow the Holy Spirit to “refine” them with fire. (There are too many scripture references to metals being refined by fire to list here.)
I agree there is a lack of manly male leadership in the Body of Christ. Coarse and vulgar talk does not make a man. It was not characteristic of Jesus. Be like Him.
August 10, 2009 at 7:52 am
PC
Tree Hugger,
I’d like to respond about social drinking christians.
I personally stopped social drinking when my daughters were in a junior high health class learning the health risks related to alcohal and drugs. We had some of their friends parents over for a bonfire and had a glass of wine with them. The kids got upset and couldn’t believe we were drinking! It was the last drink I ever had. For us, it became more about setting a good example for our kids because THEY LEARN WHAT THEY LIVE and (no matter what they say as teens) mom and dad are still their main role models. Our kids never drank in high school and made good choices in life.
One new years eve they had a party and we had kids packed wall to wall in our house. The next week several parents told us they were glad their kids were at our home because they knew there wasn’t any drinking and their kids were safe.
My wife is a CD couselor at a treatment facility and 99% of the clients issues can be traced back to their home life as children. Most of the bad decisions in my own life can be traced back to drugs and alcohal. Why even crack open the door to something that can get out of control?
I believe we owe it to the next generation to live out a fasted lifestyle in Christ Jesus and put our childrens needs and future ahead of our own.
You can’t expect someone else to set a good example, it’s up to you.
August 10, 2009 at 10:57 am
Tree Hugger
PC…thanks for your insight. It sounds like you and your wife have done a great job raising your children. There is no doubt that alcohol and drugs have caused unmeasurable problems including the breakup of families, alcohol related, fatal car accidents etc. I hear you loud and clear. There is no place for bad decisions in regard to drinking and impaired driving. That being said, I am a social drinker. I brew my own beer and make my own wine as a hobby. My children, like yours do not drink. They have never seen me or my wife drunk. When their friends come to our home it is alcohol free and that includes the adults. I have beers with the boys after tennis and drink wine with my wife. I know that some Christians believe that this is hypicritical behavior and sometimes I sense their displeasure. I respect anyones decision not to drink and I distain drunkeness. As I have stated in the blog earlier, non-Christians feel that there are too many rules and too many hypicrits in the church. Where do we draw the line. As was stated earlier…pipe smoking, risque’ attire, tatoos, body piercings, etc. I guess you could make a case with just about anything.
August 11, 2009 at 8:01 am
PC
Tree Hugger, Thanks for the feedback. Each one of us needs to search our own hearts as well as the Lords on this subject. We don’t want to fall into a legalizism. I like how Romans Chapter 14 really speaks to these things.
August 20, 2009 at 8:56 pm
BigJ
Pastor:
I agree with everything I’ve seen you say or write. However, I beg you to really research Mark Driscoll and see where his heart is now. Years ago he was a young and rebellious pastor. He has changed since then. He no longer swears and the accusations you hear against him are from years ago. PLease listen to his sermons and see who he now associates with: JOhn Piper, D.A. Carson, etc. You and Mark D would most likely agree on most issues. Thanks
August 21, 2009 at 7:36 am
Steve Hickey
BigJ – A couple others have emailed me to bring me up to date on Driscoll and testify to the fact that he has changed and doesn’t swear anymore. That’s really good to hear. I would have definitely noted that had I known it. I have listened to a number of his sermons from perhaps 2-3 years ago but did this post based on the controversy that just occurred as was reported by Christianity today and others. The NY Times article I quoted reporting “he has the foulest mouth” is from this year. I have not been able to find any statement on his change from him though others have told me he has issued some sort of renouncement with regard to his controversial language.
I’m sure he and I do have a ton in common, one even perhaps being we have both had to deal with false accusations or have had things we’ve said and done blown way out of context or that we are misunderstood. So, to the degree that I have done that to him, I really regret that, and apologize.
March 18, 2010 at 10:07 am
Acidri
Thanks for the blog. Got one more article about Ed Young that you must read titled: “I love celebrity pastors like Ed young”. http://7drizzles7.wordpress.com/2010/03/17/i-love-celebrity-pastors-like-ed-young/
August 18, 2010 at 10:25 pm
bryanaloha
Great post! Thank you
November 3, 2010 at 2:23 am
Steve
Your video really spoke to me. I struggle with the words and illustrations that my pastor uses sometimes. I hear things like ” Perhaps you struggle with sexual sin and the reason you go out or participate (in Halloween activities) is to see the slutty costumes the women and girls are wearing.” or for illustration purposes using the metaphor of the cross around your neck as being like wearing a used condom, not all bright and shiny like the crosses we we wear today. (his point being that the cross itself was dirty and was involved in a horrible event.). He loves MD and says he tries to emulate him. He says that people should come as you are to church and bring your coffee into the sanctuary. He says that people who want the sanctuary to have rules of conduct are sinning because there are no such restrictions in the bible. I look at the sanctuary as a holy place. I don’t dress up in my Sunday best but I do try to show respect to God by wearing business-casual clothing. I sit quietly and try to concentrate on the holy place I am in. I find that the casual nature of the language and the lack of respect for the holy place (sanctuary) is disturbing. Am I being a prude? Am I being rediculous for being bothered by a man and his wife sitting in the front row sipping their coffee? Is it wrong to want the sanctuary to be a place set apart for the worship? I am a church leader and I am confused about what is correct. Any comments?
November 3, 2010 at 4:53 am
Michael Acidri
Ed Young will always keep thinking of new ways to get people to follow him.
November 16, 2010 at 11:10 am
Larry Cornell
a study of cursing in the bible reveals some subtleties that the ultra-prudent might not like. Elijah basically said to the priests of Baal ,’Is your god taking a dump, is that why he can’t help you.’ That said we are called to have pure speech and to avoid vulgarities. When a pastor frequently uses profanity and justifies it is most likely mainfesting a demon. Sadly the modern church lacks the discernment needed to recognize this. Stay far away from pastors that use profanity. The Spirit of God is holy, that’s why we call him the Holy Spirit.
November 19, 2010 at 7:05 am
North Bengal Guide
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